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Thanks for your replies, out of interest what is “Rapini?” If I am honest with you and myself my diet isn’t that great, I don’t eat lots of saturated fat or junk food and my cholesterol, blood pressure etc..is fine plus the blood tests come back showing no deficiencies in major things like iron, protein, B12, calcium etc…so on paper I look fine. I am a bit overweight as do have a fondness for things like nuts, olives, olive oil and avocado which hopefully are all a good part of keeping a gout free diet. I don’t get enough protein I know that, and this whole current purine/calorie/phytoestrogen obsession doesn’t help! I hope I haven’t painted an overall picture of vegan diets being unhealthy because I have so many vegan friends who put me to shame who eat hearty and balanced diets without needing to supplement and are well into old age. What I will say is this, ignore whether I am vegan or not I have had a long standing eating disorder and that unfortunately comes and goes. I am no longer bulimic but the issues over food and my weight will probably never go away although I hope they do!
So do you think I should continue to consume peanut butter and hummus as I agree with you I think one attack isn’t enough. I should have mentioned that they were not shop bought, they were both home made so would have no other chemicals or preservatives, probably why I consumed a larger portion as were so tasty!
I take multi-vitamins, don’t want to be drawn into any discussions re the controversy over them, with my past problems with food they are also a good way to get B12 which even non-vegans can be deficient in due to modern day farming practise. Would lysine deficiency show up on a blood test? As have mentioned before I have a full blood count every six months and nothing has even shown up as deficient, doctors have always gone over results with me and been very happy.
With the soya issue there is still very much undecided I would say within the medical community over whether it protects against breast cancer or could be harmful. I think the problem was the studies into Asian populations that seemed to show a protective effect -the people there consumed moderate amounts, plus live a much healthier lifestyle overall. Thus lots of people in western worlds went mad for soya buying soya milk, burgers, cheese and even supplements etc…I lived on soya products when I first went vegan, I have no idea if that contributed to my breast cancer, I was told tumours can take time to form, and prior to being vegan I was extremely overweight and a heavy drinker, I try not to over analyse that as I did in the past, so I think this is why I am struggling so much at the moment with the food issues I long for a day I can eat without guilt whether over cancer, gout or weight!
Thank you for your kind comments that’s really nice of you I suppose I have replaced the obsession over calories that I used to have with Foods and what I can and can’t eat and any kind of restriction to someone that’s had an eating disorder is not good at all and leads to very negative thought processes.
It just seems odd to me that the last two gout flare-ups I had looking at my food diary one time I had quite a large portion of hummus and another time was quite a large portion of peanut butter buy large I don’t mean bucket loads though and as you pointed out still not comparable to animal proteins so it just doesn’t make sense for me and I definitely don’t think I need a dose increase not with my uric acid is so low so really cannot find them why I had the flare ups or maybe they are just pure coincidence
I’m careful about sore though and definitely would not be back to drinking dairy not just for the fact that I’m vegan but also I did previously had breast cancer 5 years ago which was oestrogen positive although plant estrogens seem to fall in the same category as plant purines not seen as Potent as those from animal sources I suppose all of that just has a knock on effect in the everything I eat I have to constantly worry over which I know is ridiculous
I am one of these weird people that always seems to get Side Effects nobody else gets when I first took Koko Jean I had a big loss of appetite and that’s how I lost a few pounds and yes I was I had a dry mouth and a bit of insomnia I have my body got used to it after a while
I get what you’re saying but the sources of protein that you’ve mentioned which I do really enjoy unfortunately seem to keep coming up and rearing the ugly head on the purine scale! I keep reading that soybeans cauliflower etc should be avoided and it’s just getting so ridiculous that my head is all over the place with my past eating disorder I find I’m even avoiding vegetable sources of protein because it’s becoming an obsession. I’m just sick to death of the information out there there’s always seems so negative you can’t even have a high purine plant Diet. What the hell should you eat! sorry for the Rant but you can see how much it’s getting to me currently fighting off another Flare up and all I can think of is I had some bloody peanut butter on toast lol
What has always worked for me it’s just to get straight onto the diclofenac tablets they’re the diclofenac 50mg. I just take three times a day while I’ve got an acute flare up and then normally two days or so afterwards even when I feel like I’m 100% out of the woods never experienced any side effects so far and yes I have all my liver functions done regularly and all brilliant
Sorry to reply late hadn’t seen the replies yes I do drink almond milk which is fortified with B12 and calcium and lots of other vitamins but I do also take supplements my diet can be pretty crap at times and I just feel like I’d rather be on the safe side so I know a lot of people criticise supplements but I’m not giving them up now
Luckily I didn’t have too side effects with colchicine just some slight upset stomach in the early days and insomnia strangely, but now I’m quite used to it so I agree with you both I would definitely take it may be a few days before I go away I find on holiday that my immune system never suffered any way of all the fresh air sunshine and healthy food which no doubt Turkey will have lots of fruits and vegetables
Since starting allopurinol in February I have had to further attacks one in May one in July they may one wasn’t very good but the July one definitely went away a lot quicker in fact after 2 days of rest and diclofenac I was up and around again like normal so yes fingers crossed! Thank you and definitely ignoring my previous doctor he told me to up my dose of allopurinol 300 mg at such a low level of uric acid I’m not even going to go there!
Thank you Keith thats great to know!! How long til it take do you remember? I am assuming that anything up to a year may be considered reasonable? Just need to stop linking to food, last night ate sweetcorn and my joint seemed really red afterwards (though it may have been before and I had not noticed) i started to panic and drunk plenty of water and all ok. But logic tells me its rubbish to ever imagine it would be poor sweetcorns fault?
Wanted to ask you, want to take an African Mango supplement (for reasons i wont go into not to do with gout? Not heard of studies showing it could increase gout likelihood?
Thank you Keith! I thought if the recent attack was part of the expected attacks that may occur when starting allopurinol until the gout is eventually out of your system I could cope with that as the attack was much quicker and much less long-winded and painful than previous attacks so I thought maybe just stay on 100mg that was my issue. I am happy for now at 100mg but perhaps if I get another attack I will go see a different doctor and make sure I relay my uric acid levels and get a proper explanation as to why increasing would help.
Yes true thank you!! Ur correct re my previous results almost spot on! Be interested to have Keiths view too if he doesn’t mind as he expressed surprise when hearing the 0.27 number and asked me to provide the results but just confused again I guess feel like if I get another attack doctor will be thinking “I told you so”
Please help! Still not started the 200mg dose. I was trying to upload a photo to show my uric acid but could not do it. To avoid any more stress please take my word it is 2.7!! Too low it was agreed to triple my dose. Can someone advise? Should I get a 2nd opinion with the doctor? Thank you
Right I have tried 4 times now shrinking it down so it is very small and it won’t work. Rather than me spending the rest of the day getting stressed out by computers I will tell you what the results say and I am sure you can trust me. Am looking right now at the print out in my hand.
Serum Urate Level Result- 0.27 mmo/L
(Normal range- 0.14-.36 mmo/L)Just let me know what other readings you need and I will happily type them straight up from the sheet
I can take a pic and then send it via email if its easier? What should it say on the form as i don’t think mine says “uric acid”